Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer joins Preet to discuss his book Reading the Constitution: Why I Chose Pragmatism Not Textualism. They talk about judicial integrity and political pressure, how the Court deliberates and decides cases, and Justice Breyer’s response to calls to impeach judges based on their rulings.

The conversation was recorded before a live audience at The Cooper Union on April 4, 2025.

Plus, president Trump’s deals with law firms and the confirmation prospects for Ed Martin as the U.S. Attorney in D.C.

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