In today’s vastly connected – almost intertwined – world, we know that transportation and mobility play a crucial role in maintaining the flow of life as we know it. So, is it any wonder that the technology and operations that are at work in the industry are the brainchildren of some of the best tech leaders out there? I got one of these tech leaders to sit down for a friendly-but-insightful talks – meet Kirk Franzen, the CTO at Cargo Chief, a company that works in the freight market, using tech to reduce headaches that stem from logistics. I and Kirk talked in depth about Cargo Chief, his journey to becoming a tech leader, and the way that he likes to get things done. Key takeaways from the podcast are: • Why allowing people to make mistakes can be very benefix`cial in the long run • How helping people learn what they want can be a catalyst for real change • Why taking a step back or just being patient is sometimes better than just going for something Our Guest: Kirk Franzen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kfranzen/ Website: https://cargochief.com/ Intro and background music: Craig MacArthur - Power Shutoff (www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74iB_jtauw)