Pop Pantheon cover image

Pop Pantheon

What Exactly is a "Flop"? (with Brittany Spanos & Chris Stedman)

Nov 7, 2024
Brittany Spanos, a Senior writer at Rolling Stone, joins Chris Stedman, a writer and host known for his insights on music, to dissect the concept of a 'flop' in pop music. They dive into Katy Perry's underwhelming '143', exploring how audience expectations and commercial performance affect reputations. The duo discusses how flops can lead to artistic growth, the shifting definitions shaped by digital culture, and how fans, particularly in the queer community, embrace these 'failures' with a sense of affection.
01:00:09

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

  • The term 'flop' in pop music encompasses not only commercial failure but also shifts due to evolving fan culture and expectations.
  • Queer fans often develop deep connections with perceived flops, fostering a sense of community and shared adversity in supporting misunderstood artists.

Deep dives

The Concept of Flopping in Pop Music

Flopping, traditionally understood, refers to the underperformance of an album or single, especially compared to previous successes. This term originated in the film industry, where a movie that failed to recoup its costs was labeled a flop. In music, the definition becomes more nuanced as fan culture evolves, with stan Twitter contributing to a redefined understanding. Flops can encapsulate commercial underperformance, critical disappointment, or unmet expectations, all of which have shifted over time as the music landscape has changed.

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts

Save insights instantly, chat with episodes, and build lasting knowledge - all powered by AI.
App store bannerPlay store banner