The End of Recessions is Closer Than You Think ft. Jordi Visser

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Nov 6, 2025

Jordi Visser, founder and chief strategist at Visser Labs, joins to explore the intersection of AI, macroeconomics, and markets. He predicts that AI's rapid evolution will disrupt labor, possibly catalyzing a $5 trillion energy buildout essential for infrastructure. Discussions include how AI might lower inflation and influence Fed policy, the winners and losers in tech, and how Bitcoin miners could stabilize energy grids. Visser also touches on the role of stablecoins in reshaping global finance and the potential of AI in transforming economies and labor markets.

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AI Decouples GDP From Jobs

AI adoption is already disrupting knowledge work and reducing hiring needs at large firms.
This decouples GDP growth from employment and ushers in persistent labor-market weakness.

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K-Shaped Inequality Suppresses Inflation

The top of the K-shaped economy benefits from liquidity and tech winners, while the bottom depends on credit and wages.
That inequality is deflationary for broad consumer demand and tempers inflationary pressures.

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Position For Easier Financial Conditions

Expect liquidity to rise as QT ends and Fed balance sheet stabilizes; position for easier financial conditions.
Consider assets that benefit from lower rates and renewed leverage when money gets levered up.

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