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We All Suffer from OpenAI’s Pursuit of Scale | Tech Won't Save Us

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Jun 12, 2025
Karen Hao, an award-winning journalist and author of 'Empire of AI,' uncovers the troubling realities of OpenAI's scaling ambitions. She highlights how this push has led to exploitation, worsening data privacy, and surveillance capitalism. The discussion delves into AI's colonial legacy, the environmental costs of data centers, and the ethical dilemmas emerging from corporate interests in technology. Hao urges for more accountability and a shift towards responsible AI development to mitigate these societal impacts.
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OpenAI's Early Shift to Profit

  • OpenAI shifted from a nonprofit ideal to a profit-driven model early on due to funding and competitive pressures.
  • This shift caused secrecy and a focus on scaling at the expense of original transparency promises.
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Symbolic vs. Connective AI

  • AI research split into symbolic AI focused on knowledge databases and connective AI focused on learning from data.
  • The rise of the internet and data abundance propelled connective AI, which dominates today's AI landscape.
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Commercialization Drives AI Focus

  • The commercialization push and available data favored deep learning, propelling connective AI forward.
  • This created a competitive advantage for wealthy companies, reducing diversity in AI research and reinforcing monopolies on talent.
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