Joel Holsinger discusses the importance of buying assets and cash flows instead of cryptocurrency in the crypto industry. The impact of interest rates on companies and investors is explored, including labor inflation and flaws in the 60-40 investing model. The podcast also highlights the controversies surrounding ESG and the importance of positive impact. Joel shares personal background, love for investing, and involvement with global health charities.
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Quick takeaways
Investors should prioritize assets with cash flow over cryptocurrencies like crypto.
Models need to adapt to changing market conditions, including higher rates and credit contractions.
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Lesson learned from the collapse of FTX
The collapse of FTX serves as a valuable lesson about investing. Joel Holsinger emphasizes the importance of pattern recognition and advises investors to focus on assets with cash flow rather than investing in cryptocurrencies like crypto. He highlights the lack of institutional due diligence and warns against overhyping valuations without proper investigation.
Expectations for interest rates and investment opportunities
Joel Holsinger discusses the expectations for interest rates and the potential opportunities for investors. He suggests that a recession is imminent and expects a steep rate hike to combat inflation. Holsinger also points out the impact of credit contraction and emphasizes the need for investors to pivot towards credit-focused investments. He believes that the anticipation of a rate hike has already resulted in corrections in the back-end of the rate curve.
The flaw in the 60-40 investing model
Joel Holsinger challenges the traditional 60-40 investing model, highlighting the flaws of applying it in a different market environment. He discusses the risks associated with fixed income investments when rates are low, and the limited upside if rates stay low. Holsinger suggests that models need to adapt to changing market conditions and the increasing probability of higher rates and credit contractions. He advocates for purpose-driven funds with a positive impact rather than negative screens.
Positive impact of purpose-driven funds and ESG
Joel Holsinger shares his passion for ESG and highlights the importance of positive impact investing. He discusses Aries' approach to global health and education and the incorporation of purpose-driven funds. Holsinger emphasizes the need for ESG to move beyond negative screens and focus on making a real difference in the world. He encourages other firms to adopt similar models and contribute to causes they are passionate about to have a greater impact on society.
In this week’s episode of The Reorg Primary View, Joel Holsinger, co-head of alternative credit at Ares Management, discusses the importance of buying assets and cash flows, yield curves and purpose-driven investing with Reorg’s James Holloway.
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