Maureen Ryan, author and journalist, joins Adam Conover to discuss Hollywood's toxic underbelly, exposing its abusive working environments. They delve into the cycle of abuse and accountability, highlighting the need for change in the entertainment industry. The conversation also uncovers the challenges of reporting on high profile individuals and the toxic culture within comedy spaces.
Hollywood's toxic working environment persists despite the industry's claim of progressiveness.
Powerful individuals in Hollywood often operate with impunity, perpetuating abuse and toxic work environments.
The entertainment industry needs meaningful reporting systems and collective action to address abuse and promote change.
Deep dives
Toxicity and Racism in Hollywood
Hollywood's narrative of itself as a place of decent, thoughtful liberalism is often fake or a lie. The working environment in Hollywood is toxic, racist, and emotionally abusive. Exploitative behavior and the silencing of victims persist despite movements like #MeToo. The industry lacks self-correction and fails to address systemic issues.
The Impact of Power Dynamics and Abuse
The industry favors and protects powerful individuals, enabling a cycle of abuse. Rainmakers like Lauren Michaels from SNL or certain directors and showrunners, operate with relative impunity, creating toxic and fear-based work environments. The crown of power can lead to mistreatment, bullying, and favoritism, ultimately reinforcing harmful behavior.
False Narratives and Lack of Inclusion
Hollywood perpetuates false narratives of inclusivity and diversity while maintaining systems that exclude and silence marginalized communities. Meaningful change and inclusion remain elusive, as performative actions often replace substantial progress. Racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of discrimination persist within the industry despite superficial appearances.
The Need for Reporting Systems and Safeguards in the Entertainment Industry
There is a need for meaningful reporting systems and safeguards in the entertainment industry to address abuse and misconduct. The Hollywood Commission was supposed to provide a reporting portal, but it has yet to be launched. Other industries, such as colleges and companies like Zappos, have implemented similar systems that allow individuals to report misconduct independently and with the option of anonymity. Training programs and support for employees should also be implemented to ensure a safer work environment. While change may be difficult when those at the top are not proactive, collective action from individuals in the industry has historically proven effective in bringing about change.
The Power of Unionizing and Collective Action
The entertainment industry has a history of collective action and unionizing that has resulted in important changes. By banding together, employees can demand better conditions, fair treatment, and meaningful support from their employers. The successful strikes and negotiations carried out by guilds, such as the Writers Guild of America, have brought about significant improvements in areas like pay, health coverage, and pensions. Individuals within the industry have the power to create change when they join forces and demand a safer and more equitable workplace.
The entertainment industry is frequently called out for posturing as politically enlightened and progressive, yet beneath this veneer lies a troubling history of toxic, racist, and emotionally abusive working environments. This conduct would be deemed unacceptable in other sectors, so why does Hollywood often turn a blind eye? More crucially, what measures can be taken to address it? In this episode, Adam is joined by author and journalist Maureen Ryan to discuss the cycle of abuse and accountability, and the best course for remedying the ugly underbelly of show business. Find Maureen's book at factuallypod.com/books