Julian Dorey Podcast #275 - CIA "Criminal" Spy Speaks Out for 1st Time | Matthew Hedger
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Feb 14, 2025 Matthew Hedger, a former undercover money man for the CIA, sheds light on his thrilling experiences in espionage. He shares wild stories of infiltrating criminal networks, including a motorcycle gang and cartels. Hedger reveals the intricacies of money laundering, tapping into the early use of Bitcoin. He discusses the psychological challenges operatives face, all while mastering the art of communication and deception. Delightfully candid, he also dives into the unorthodox training and ethical dilemmas that define life in the shadows.
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From NSA Analyst to CIA NOC
- Matthew Hedger, a former CIA NOC, discusses his unusual path into the agency.
- Starting with the NSA at 19, he transitioned to a CIA-led joint counterintelligence unit before being recruited for a NOC role.
Early Inspiration
- Hedger's early interest in espionage stemmed from reading spy books, not movies.
- This fueled his desire for a career in intelligence from a young age.
Afghanistan Counterterrorism
- Hedger recounts supporting a counterintelligence operation in Afghanistan targeting spies on military bases.
- He highlights the significant, yet underreported, intensity of the conflict during that period.
