Andrew Gold sits down with Charles Asher Small, one of the world’s foremost experts on extremism, for a gripping, deeply researched exposé into how global influence networks quietly shape Western politics, media, and culture. In this eye-opening conversation, Small breaks down the silent, decades-long strategy he believes is now reaching its pivotal moment — and why the West may be dangerously unprepared. Subscribe to Heretics Clips for more explosive interviews: https://www.youtube.com/@hereticsclips/videos

Charles Asher Small reveals how a coordinated ideological project — originating nearly a century ago — has enabled extremist movements to gain influence across Western institutions, academia, political circles and the media. He argues that while the vast majority of Muslims simply want peaceful, stable lives, a small number of ideological actors have spent decades embedding themselves within influential Western structures, often unnoticed and unchallenged.

One of the most provocative themes in this discussion is Small’s analysis of Qatar’s vast soft-power network. Without making defamatory or unverified allegations, he explains how influence campaigns — whether through funding, cultural partnerships, or academic engagement — can shape public narratives and political debate in subtle but powerful ways.

Small also examines what he calls the “Red–Green Alliance” — the strategic convergence between radical left-wing groups and Islamist ideologues who, despite differing worldviews, share a desire to transform Western societies. He argues that ignoring this ideological partnership could have significant long-term consequences.

In this episode, we explore:

Whether the West is “sleepwalking into a revolution”

Why countries like Jordan and the UAE have outlawed the Muslim Brotherhood

The UK’s 40,000-person jihadist watchlist and what it reveals

How ideological networks influence political elites, academia, and the media

The implications for women, LGBTQ+ people, minorities, and democratic freedoms

Whether Western governments are too afraid to confront these challenges

Despite the grave warnings, Small repeatedly emphasises that the danger lies in extremist ideologies — not in ordinary Muslim communities, who often suffer first under authoritarian movements.

This is a high-stakes, deeply informed conversation about ideology, geopolitics, extremism, and the future of liberal democracy — delivered responsibly, without sensationalism and without hate.

Watch the full podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWpJKSqA-FE

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