In this episode of the Chasing Leviathan podcast, PJ and Dr. Djene Bajalan discuss how historical factors like the nation-state project of the Ottoman Empire and World War I contributed to the Kurdish movements for independence we see today.

In case you missed it, we highly recommend that you listen to our previous episode, "What is Nationalism?" as it gives some crucial context for this episode's conversation.

For a deep dive into Dr. Djene Bajalan's work, check out his book: Studies in Kurdish History: Empire, Ethnicity and Identity 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1138884685/

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Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified. Nothing on earth is its equal. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud.

These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop.

Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths of a meaningful question explored through the lens of personal experience or professional expertise.

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