In this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with David Polidi, Bruce Hersey (Syzygy Institute), and Peggy Kolodny (Art Therapy Collective) to explore the forthcoming anthology IFS-Informed EMDR. Together, they unpack how EMDR’s eight phases can be enriched—not replaced—by Internal Family Systems (IFS), art therapy, and Jungian active imagination.

You’ll hear:

Why Bruce views the target as a part—and how that changes the way we conceptualize trauma work.
How protectors vs. exiles organize around different types of energy (urge vs. disturbance).
The emergence of Phase 2.5 / Discovery, bridging resourcing and processing.
How art-making and active imagination safely access nonverbal, somatic memory.
Bridger’s chapter, “A Window and a Mirror”, introducing the Somatic Integration and Processing (SIP) model for case conceptualization as an intersubjective, diversity-honoring map.

This conversation is both practical and philosophical—an invitation to deepen precision, creativity, and compassion in trauma therapy.

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