Ravi welcomes back journalist and author Bethany McLean to explore the contentious public response to the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, what it reveals about the growing normalization of political violence, and the deepening anger towards America’s healthcare system.

They then turn to the rise of forces like private equity and the Make America Healthy Again movement as they discuss the tangled politics of profit, policy, and ideology. Finally, Ravi and Bethany take a closer look at opportunities for meaningful reform as they consider what lies ahead for healthcare and public health in America.

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