Lisa (37) and Marcus (38) have been married for 14 years, raising four kids and building a life together—but when it comes to money, they couldn’t be further apart.

Lisa homeschools their kids and dreams of more family travel time full of Rich Life experiences. Marcus shuts down in financial conversations, overwhelmed by anxiety and self-doubt—even though he’s a professional accountant. In today’s episode, live from Washington, D.C., they uncover a painful dynamic: Lisa is left holding the financial burden alone, while Marcus avoids it entirely.

Can they change their money story and finally start acting as a team?

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