
The Financial Samurai Podcast The End Of The Commercial Real Estate Recession With Ben Miller, CEO of Fundrise
Sep 17, 2025
Ben Miller, co-founder and CEO of Fundrise, discusses the recovering landscape of commercial real estate, emphasizing optimism amid easing inflation and rates. He highlights the resilience of residential-oriented properties and explains how focus on build-for-rent and data centers positions Fundrise for growth. Ben also shares insights on how population trends and supply dynamics are influencing rents, and why data centers are a promising investment for the decade. He concludes with predictions of a potential real estate boom in the next two years.
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Real Estate's Three-Year Recession Ends
- Real estate entered a three-year recession starting Sept 2022 due to rapid rate hikes and stayed weak while the stock market recovered.
- Ben Miller says real estate now appears to be at the start of a new upcycle as rates begin to fall.
Position For Rate Cuts
- Expect the Fed to cut rates and plan for roughly 100 bps lower in the year ahead, which helps real estate.
- Use falling rates as a reason to increase real estate exposure for long-term upside, not short-term timing.
Rates Move Directionally, Not Mechanically
- There's no simple one-for-one formula linking interest rate moves to property prices, but directionally lower rates boost valuations.
- Miller emphasizes scenarios: modest rate falls improve performance; larger falls trigger a real estate boom.


