In this episode, we talk about the messy shift from founder-led sales to something more scalable. A lot of teams trip up here. It's not just about hiring the right people, it's about whether the company is actually ready for them.

Early sales hires often fail because the structure, process, or timing is off. The conversation introduces the idea of level awareness, a way to figure out if your setup matches the stage you're in. The same problems tend to repeat, whether you're at $1M or $50M ARR.

(00:00) - Introduction
(02:12) - Challenges in Founder-Led Sales
(05:36) - Diagnosing Founder-Led Sales Issues
(08:36) - Hiring Challenges and Misconceptions
(11:12) - Framework for Scaling Sales Teams
(13:39) - Levels of Sales Maturity
(19:20) - Defining Level One
(23:27) - Hiring for Stage Level Fit
(25:25) - Common Founder Regrets
(27:13) - Hiring Sales Leaders with Level Awareness
(34:53) - Challenges of Premature Scaling
(36:31) - Conclusion
(37:37) - Next Week: Is Remote Work & AI Making Us Less Productive?

Founder-Led Sales and Other Scary Transitions