Today on the flagship podcast of open-source lightbulbs:
David Pierce chats with Verge investigations editor Josh Dzieza about his story detailing how humans matter far more to AI development than we may have thought.
Later, smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattison Tuohy explains why we're probably getting the idea of a “smart home” all wrong.
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