The Culture War #26 - Trump VS DeSantis 2024, Laura Loomer Debates Bill Mitchell
Aug 18, 2023
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An analysis of the potential matchup between Trump and DeSantis in the 2024 election. Laura Loomer discusses being banned by big tech. The constitutional implications of same-state candidates. Questioning the expertise of an individual involved in a big tech bill. The dynamics between Trump and DeSantis and their campaign preparations. DeSantis's contradictory actions and controversial approval in Florida. Trump's role in the January 6th events and misuse of funds. Analysis of Trump's victory and plans to undermine freedom. Trump's endorsements and alliance with McCarthy. Discussion on potential 2024 candidates and polls. Ron DeSantis's stance on a federal abortion law. Heated argument and accusations of betrayal. Proposed blogger bill in Florida and media handling of criticism. Trump's actions and unforced errors. The impact of COVID-19 on Trump and DeSantis. Support for Trump and concerns about the country.
Trump and DeSantis's fundraising tactics have sparked controversy and concerns about the use of funds.
The divide between supporters of Trump and DeSantis is highlighted, showcasing differing strategies and opinions.
The perception of election rigging and the lack of support from the GOP establishment are discussed, with the aim of exposing corruption and holding Democrats accountable.
Both Trump and DeSantis face challenges surrounding controversies and perception, emphasizing the need to effectively address these issues.
There is a toxic and divisive atmosphere within the DeSantis campaign, leading to personal attacks and alienation of potential supporters.
Questions have been raised about the loyalty and judgment of DeSantis's campaign staff, raising concerns about the campaign's direction and effectiveness.
Deep dives
Podcast Discussion: Trump versus DeSantis 2024
In this podcast, the discussion revolves around the potential 2024 presidential candidacy of Trump and DeSantis. The guests Laura Loomer, Bill Mitchell, and Kyle Becker share their views on the two candidates. The conversation covers topics such as the importance of the presidency, the danger of the deep state, and the need for draining the swamp. They also discuss the fundraising efforts by both Trump and DeSantis and how the money was used. Additionally, they debate the events of January 6th and its impact on Trump's reputation. The discussion highlights the divide in opinions and strategies between supporters of Trump and DeSantis as they navigate the political landscape.
Trump's Leadership PAC and DeSantis' Fundraising Tactics
The podcast delves into the fundraising efforts of both Trump and DeSantis. It is revealed that Trump raised $250 million to fight the alleged election steal, but the promised fund never materialized. Instead, the money was transferred to his leadership PAC, which offers more freedom in spending. DeSantis, on the other hand, raised $200 million for his gubernatorial campaign in Florida, but transferred most of it to the never-back-down super PAC, causing some donors to feel misled. The discussion highlights how these fundraising tactics have sparked controversy and concerns about the use of funds.
The Rigging of Elections and GOP Establishment
The podcast explores the perception of election rigging and the role of the GOP establishment. The guests assert that the Democrats are currently rigging the election by interfering with political prosecutions and creating roadblocks for Trump and his supporters. They express disappointment in the lack of support from the GOP establishment in defending Trump against these attacks. Some argue that supporting Trump is necessary to push back against the Democrats and hold them accountable. By doing so, they aim to expose the corruption within the system and awaken the American people to these realities.
Challenges Faced by Trump and DeSantis
The challenges faced by both Trump and DeSantis are discussed in the podcast. For Trump, the conversation centers around the controversy surrounding January 6th and the perception of unforced errors, such as the Mar-a-Lago documents and the handling of legal bills. DeSantis faces scrutiny over the use of fundraising and potential diversion of funds, as well as allegations of breaking promises to supporters. The discussion highlights the importance of perception and the need for both candidates to address these challenges effectively in order to maintain support and credibility.
The issue with DeSantis campaign staff's attacks on potential allies
There have been complaints about Ron DeSantis' campaign staff and supporters attacking potential or former allies. This behavior has been observed by several prominent personalities. The question is, why is this happening? It appears to stem from a toxic and divisive atmosphere within the campaign, where insults and personal attacks have become the norm. This behavior is counterproductive and alienates potential supporters instead of building alliances.
Criticism of DeSantis' handling of Jazz Jennings' surgeries
A criticism was raised regarding Rhonda DeSantis' response to the surgeries of Jazz Jennings in Florida. Some individuals expressed concern about DeSantis' seeming lack of involvement or response to the issue. Instead of addressing the concerns directly, there was a harsh and dismissive response from DeSantis' spokespeople and supporters. This approach not only failed to address the concerns raised but also contributed to a growing perception of combative and divisive behavior from the DeSantis camp.
Trump supporters versus DeSantis supporters
There appears to be animosity between supporters of Donald Trump and supporters of Ron DeSantis. While both camps have faced criticism and personal attacks, there is a perception that DeSantis supporters are particularly aggressive and hostile towards those who question or criticize DeSantis. This behavior has caused tension and alienation between potential allies and has become a point of contention within the political discourse surrounding DeSantis.
The loyalty and judgment of DeSantis' campaign staff
Questions have been raised about the loyalty and judgment of Ron DeSantis' campaign staff. Critics argue that certain personnel within the campaign have been quick to attack and insult potential allies, failing to exhibit professionalism or political astuteness. The behavior of campaign staff can reflect poorly on the candidate and may hinder potential alliances and support. This raises concerns about the overall direction and effectiveness of the DeSantis campaign.
The importance of supporting President Trump
The podcast episode emphasizes the importance of supporting President Trump despite the attacks he has faced. It argues that he fought for the forgotten man, gave a voice to the American people, and protected their freedoms and liberties. The episode highlights Trump's accomplishments and asserts that he is needed to save the country from falling into communism and political prosecutions. It calls on viewers to fight for Trump just as he fought for them.
Ron DeSantis as a strong contender
The podcast discusses Ron DeSantis as a strong contender for the presidency. It highlights his policies, bureaucratic management skills, and ability to fight the culture war. The episode mentions his stand on issues such as ESG, central bank digital currencies, parents' rights, and girls' sports. It argues that DeSantis can run silent and deep, surprising his opponents, and has the potential to win against Trump. It also criticizes the GOP establishment for being passive and suggests that DeSantis is the better choice to make a change.
The debate and conflicts of interest
The podcast addresses the upcoming debate and raises concerns about conflicts of interest. It questions the objectivity of Fox News, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who reportedly gave DeSantis a book deal and instructed Fox News to make Trump a non-person. The episode argues that Trump's absence from the debate raises questions about the fairness and potential bias of the hosting network. It also touches on vaccine-related controversies and misinformation, highlighting that DeSantis initially supported vaccines and criticizing media portrayal of his stance.