The Good Fight

Rebecca Goldstein on Why Humans Need to Matter

Jan 13, 2026
Rebecca Goldstein, a brilliant philosopher and novelist known for her works bridging literature and philosophy, dives deep into the human need for significance. She discusses how this 'mattering instinct' is essential to our dignity but can also lead to destructive behaviors. Goldstein outlines four primary ways people seek significance and explores the fine line between healthy and unhealthy mattering. They delve into the ethics of our desires for recognition and how competition can spur societal benefits despite personal struggles.
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INSIGHT

Self-Reflection Creates The Mattering Gap

  • Humans uniquely pair self-preservation with deep self-reflection, producing the need to justify attention to themselves.
  • That mismatch between attention and cosmic significance creates an existential drive to "matter."
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Four Ways People Answer The Mattering Need

  • People channel the mattering drive into four broad strategies: transcendent, social, heroic, and competitive.
  • Each strategy satisfies the longing differently and carries distinct risks and rewards.
ANECDOTE

Baba Amte's Ethical Heroic Striving

  • Rebecca recounts Baba Amte, an atheist who embraced an ethical heroic project to help people with leprosy.
  • He pursued high standards to reconcile himself to himself rather than seek fame.
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