We are joined by Ola Tunander. Ola is Research Professor Emeritus with the Peace Research Institute in Oslo. He earned his doctoral degree in 1989 with a thesis on US Maritime Strategy. Ola has written and edited 15 books on geopolitics, military strategy, European security, submarine warfare, and deception/psychological operations. He currently publishes at Ola’s Substack.

Aaron and Ola discuss the fates of Sweden’s best internationalist statesmen as well as Ola’s currently very relevant seminal work on the US false flag submarine operation in Sweden during the 1980’s.

Please check out Ola’s Substack, especially his brilliant two-part article:

• Democratic State vs. Deep State: Part I

• Democratic State vs. Deep State: Part II

Special thanks to:

• Dana Chavarria, production

• Casey Moore, graphics

• Michelle Boley, animated intro

• Mock Orange, music