DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall Deportation Industrial Complex | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Dec 29, 2025
The discussion covers the Trump Administration's plan to detain over 80,000 immigrants in large processing warehouses. There's also a critical look at the legality of U.S. airstrikes in Nigeria aimed at protecting Christians. Tensions surrounding Zelensky and Trump's upcoming meeting highlight geopolitical conflicts, while the challenges of recruiting for the CIA illustrate deep bureaucratic hurdles. The podcast reveals shocking insights into prison life and immigration issues, igniting important debates on handling refugees and U.S. border policies.
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Deportation Industrial Complex
- The Trump administration planned massive migrant detention warehouses to hold 80,000 people staged for deportation.
- Ted Rall calls it the "deportation industrial complex" and warns of institutionalized abuse and logistics nightmares.
Christmas Eve Intervention Changed A Case
- John described recruiting a direct penetration into 17 November after George Tenet intervened at a CIA Christmas Eve party.
- The recruitment helped disrupt 17 November two years later, illustrating bureaucracy and chance inside the Agency.
How To Call In Successfully
- If you plan to call into the show, join the Discord waiting room, mute your browser tab, and keep questions short and on-topic.
- Producer Robbie emphasized professionalism and warned that disruptive callers will be banned permanently.
