The Counsel of Trent

#1111 - DIALOGUE: Is Mormonism Demonic?

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Dec 22, 2025
Join Hayden Carroll, a Latter-day Saint apologist and creator of the 'Let's Talk with Hayden Carroll' channel, as he engages in a spirited dialogue with Trent Horn. They explore the controversial critique of Mormonism, addressing claims of demonic origins and the implications of labeling miracles. Hayden shares insights on the moral responsibility of language in apologetics, while Trent outlines the complexities of miracles in both faiths. Their respectful exchange highlights the challenges of understanding divine inspiration and the importance of careful discourse.
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INSIGHT

Demonic Explanation Is A Competing Hypothesis

  • Hayden Carroll argues labeling competing religious miracles as demonic is rhetorically powerful but often lazy and unfalsifiable.
  • Trent Horn frames such claims as a legitimate competing hypothesis to explain supernatural claims when evidence warrants it.
ADVICE

Use Caution When Ascribing Demonic Origins

  • Avoid publicly declaring other faiths demonically inspired without careful justification because it can dehumanize and incite harm.
  • Add disclaimers and caveats when discussing supernatural origin hypotheses to prevent unintended consequences.
INSIGHT

Miracles Raise A Trilemma For Competing Faiths

  • Both guests note miracles in rival traditions create a trilemma: lunatic, liar, or divine.
  • Trent sees Catholic-specific miracles (Eucharist, Marian apparitions) as stronger evidence pointing to Catholic claims.
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