
 Identity at the Center
 Identity at the Center #279 - AI in IAM with Patrick Harding of Ping Identity
 May 6, 2024 
 Patrick Harding, Chief Product Architect at Ping Identity, shares his journey through the identity and access management landscape. He discusses the omnipresence of AI, highlighting both benefits for users and risks like deepfakes. Harding emphasizes the need for AI governance and data policies, suggesting out-of-band confirmations for trust. He explores the future of AI in identity, envisioning AI-driven decisions, yet acknowledges adoption hurdles due to risk aversion. The conversation wraps up with light-hearted insights, making for an engaging listen! 
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Generative AI Is The New Definition Of AI
- Patrick Harding frames modern AI mostly as generative AI and large language models that enable human-like interactions.
- This shift makes AI feel humanized and able to pass the Turing test in many scenarios.
AI Brings Both Innovation And New Fraud
- AI will both improve identity products and enable new fraud vectors like deepfakes and automated phishing.
- Organizations must plan for simultaneous defensive and productive AI use cases in identity.
Deepfake Caused A $25M Fraud
- Patrick shares a real-world deepfake case where a CFO video convinced an employee to transfer $25 million to fraudsters.
- He uses this example to show how realistic and costly deepfake attacks already are.
