The Best People with Nicolle Wallace “Pod Save America” Co-Hosts: Re-Humanization Needs to be a Goal Now
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Nov 3, 2025 
Jon Favreau and Tommy Vietor, co-founders of Crooked Media and former Obama staffers, discuss the need for political communication that combines entertainment with activism. They examine how to inspire Democrats with charismatic leaders and the importance of rehumanizing marginalized communities. The conversation touches on the urgency of upcoming elections and the challenge of combating misinformation while maintaining a hopeful vision. They emphasize building a left-leaning media that resonates deeply with the public amidst today's political landscape.
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Podcast Intimacy Builds Trust
- Podcasts create intimacy by sounding like real conversations, which narrows the distance between private political talk and public discourse.
- That intimacy helps hosts cut through fluff and build trust with listeners who feel like they "know" the hosts.
Reach Beyond Political Junkies
- The Democratic media ecosystem must reach beyond political junkies to voters who rarely pay attention.
- That requires balancing seriousness about threats with formats and tones that attract less-engaged audiences.
Focus Reporting On Effects Not Outrage
- Prioritize covering actions and effects over every outrageous statement from Trump to avoid outrage fatigue.
- Surface repeated corruption stories so they stick despite being washed out by continual scandal.