Phyllis Tickle was at Fuller Seminary for a talk about her new book "The Age of the Spirit". She then came over to (a)Spire to have a pint with us. This was no ordinary pint! Tripp brewed 'The Grain Emergence: a 500 year rummage ale'.

We do some Q & R with Phyllis - then Barry Taylor chats with her. Then we played "Au Contraire Mon Frère II" with Tripp and Tony. Round 3 will be in Chicago at the Progressive Youth Ministry Conference later this month.

This is a rough-cut edit. That means that a couple of swear words made it through the filter ... and that some things removed for public conception.

We want to thank Andy and his team plus all those who helped to make this event happen and to those who came out and made this an amazing night. PS Claire also brought some amazing home brew. That was tasty.

We also want to wish Phyllis a Happy 80th Birthday!! Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community.

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