Comedian David Baddiel, Richard Iowadi, and theologian Ben Quash discuss atheism, desire for God, and the influence of death in this thought-provoking podcast.
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The intense desire for the existence of God is a fundamental aspect of human psychology, driven by the need for meaning and order in life.
The desire for God stems from the human quest for a parental figure who provides comfort, guidance, and a sense of justice and order in life.
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Exploring the Desire for God
David Baddiel discusses his book, The God Desire, in which he explores his personal atheism and the deep-seated desire for God that exists in humanity. He reflects on the importance of death in shaping this desire, as well as the need for meaning and order in life. Baddiel argues that while many atheists dismiss the desire for God, it is a fundamental aspect of human psychology. He highlights the complex and multifaceted nature of this desire, acknowledging that it is not always logical or conscious. Ultimately, Baddiel emphasizes his deep love and appreciation for life, even amidst its challenges, which shapes his atheism and understanding of the human need for God.
The Psychological Origins of Desire for God
David Baddiel delves into the psychological origins of the desire for God, noting that it extends beyond the fear of death. He explores the idea that the desire for God also stems from the need for a parental figure, someone to provide comfort and guidance. Baddiel connects this desire to the human quest for meaning, justice, and order in life. He suggests that these desires, while not always fully conscious or easily named, shape our conceptions of God and play a significant role in religious beliefs and experiences. Baddiel's exploration sheds light on the complex nature of desire and its impact on the human perception of spirituality.
Variations in Desire and Anxiety Across Cultures
The discussion between David Baddiel and Ben Quash touches on the variations in desire and anxiety across different cultural and religious contexts. They highlight the historical and cultural factors that shape the specific anxieties addressed by religious beliefs and practices. Baddiel shares his personal experience growing up in a Jewish background, where the focus is on judgment in this life rather than the afterlife. Quash draws on the theologian Paul Tillich's perspective, which identifies different anxieties throughout Christian history, such as death, sin, and meaninglessness. This discussion illuminates the varying ways in which desire and anxiety manifest in different cultures and religious traditions.
Understanding and Interpreting Desire
The conversation delves into the challenge of understanding and interpreting desires, particularly those related to the concept of God. Baddiel acknowledges that desires can be complex and difficult to fully grasp or articulate, as they may be shaped by unconscious impulses and anxieties. He suggests that desires can be retroengineered by examining the ways in which God serves psychological needs, such as the fear of death and the desire for justice and meaning. Baddiel recognizes that desires can be influenced by individual experiences and cultural contexts, and that they are not always logical or easily defined. This exploration highlights the multifaceted nature of desire and its connection to the human imagination.
David Baddiel would love there to be a God. The comedian and bestselling author has spent a lot of time fantasising about how much better life would be if there actually were a supreme being – which for him would be some kind of Superhero Dad who chased off Death. Unfortunately for him, there isn’t. Or at least, that’s Baddiel’s view, and it’s the starting point of his new book The God Desire. In April 2023 Baddiel came to our stage at The Tabernacle in Notting Hill, London, to argue that it is the very intensity of his, and everyone else’s, desire for God to exist that proves God’s non-existence. Baddiel was joined on stage by comedian, actor and film-maker Richard Ayoade and theologian and broadcaster Ben Quash for a conversation that tackled this most ancient and fundamental of questions: is our need for there to be something greater than ourselves anything more than just that – a need?
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