Fern Mallis – aka “fashion’s godmother” – is a legend in the industry. She’s the founder of New York Fashion Week and the former executive director of the Council of Fashion Designers of America. Over decades working behind the scenes, Fern has seen it all – from disasters, to demanding personalities, to less-than-friendly behavior. So it makes sense that Fern told us her best piece of career advice is refreshingly simple: Just be nice. Your move, Miranda Priestly.

In this episode, Fern shares:

Her behind-the-scenes look into the fashion world
The origin story of Fashion Week
How she’s thought about reinventing herself and her career
Why she’s never stuck to a career plan
How she got her biggest opportunities by raising her hand

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