The Pomp Podcast

#1541 Michael Ellis | CIA Says Bitcoin Is A Tool They Use

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Apr 30, 2025
Michael Ellis, Deputy Director of the CIA, sheds light on the complex U.S.-China relationship and its implications for global security. He discusses the crucial role of technology and AI in intelligence, emphasizing the importance of public-private partnerships. Ellis dives into how cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin are utilized in national security contexts, particularly in counter-narcotics. He also stresses the need for international collaboration to tackle threats from drug cartels, outlining strategies to strengthen alliances with countries like China and Mexico.
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US-China Strategic Competition Shift

  • China is a unique competitor as it is primarily an economic and technological threat rather than purely military or political.
  • Past US policies enabled China's rise, but recent shifts recognize it as a competitor and adversary.
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Taiwan's Strategic Tech Importance

  • Taiwan is a critical partner and a semiconductor powerhouse, vital for US technology.
  • The Taiwan-China situation is a top CIA focus involving whole-government preparation for various scenarios.
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Embracing Tech in Intelligence

  • The CIA aims for decisive technological advantage, prioritizing AI, quantum computing, biotech, and semiconductors.
  • There is a cultural and personnel shift needed to integrate science and technology expertise.
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