To celebrate the end of our first season of this podcast, we're delighted to share this conversation with Rutger Bregman- the person who inspired this project. 

Rutger is a journalist, historian, and the author of Humankind: A Hopeful History, in which he challenges the assumption that people are inherently selfish and competitive. Instead, he argues that we are hard-wired for kindness and collaboration, and this is what has led to our flourishing as a species. 

In this conversation we dive into a range of topics from news cycles, to Rutger's next book and why the key to creating a better future starts with the belief that we're better than we think we are.

Find out more:

www.rutgerbregman.com/books

This episode of Hope Is A Verb was hosted by Angus Hervey, cofounder of Future Crunch and Amy Davoren-Rose, creative director.

The soundtrack for this podcast is "Rain" composed and performed by El Rey Miel from their upcoming album"Sea the Sky."

Audio Sweetening by Anthony Badolato- Ai3 Audio and Voice.

We would like to acknowledge that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal, Wurundjeri and Woi Warring People. These conversations are inspired by our charity partners and our Humankind Project that celebrates the people who are stitching our world back together.

You can contact us at: hope@futurecrunch.com.au

Transcripts will be available on our website soon