NBC Meet the Press April 27 — Sec. Marco Rubio and Sen. Bernie Sanders
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Apr 27, 2025 
Marco Rubio, the former US Senator from Florida and current Secretary of State, discusses critical diplomacy efforts following President Trump’s meeting with President Zelenskyy to address the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders, the Independent Senator from Vermont, critiques Trump's tariff strategy and its impact on supply issues in American stores. The conversation also highlights polling data indicating economic challenges for Trump, reflecting shifting political dynamics as both guests probe the intersection of trade, leadership, and voter engagement.
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Diplomacy Advances Slowly on Ukraine
- Diplomacy between Russia and Ukraine is closer than in years but still unfinished and difficult.
- President Trump is uniquely positioned to broker peace, though the process is complex and uncertain.
Sanctions Risk Closing Diplomacy
- Avoid premature sanctions in peace negotiations as they may close doors to diplomacy.
- Determine clearly if both parties want peace before escalating measures against Russia.
Peace Built on Verification Not Trust
- Peace deals are about verification, not trust, and require security guarantees and facts.
- Ending the war requires realistic compromises, not unconditional surrender.