
Good Faith Is the Border Really in Crisis? Crime, Fentanyl & the Facts - with Jennie Murray
Dec 11, 2025
Jennie Murray, President of the National Immigration Forum and a passionate advocate for faith-informed immigration policies, joins the discussion. She emphasizes the tension between compassion and the rule of law, arguing that the U.S. immigration system is desperately in need of reform. Murray debunks myths surrounding crime and fentanyl, illustrating that migrants contribute positively to the economy. She highlights the importance of dignified language and encourages proactive support for newcomers, urging a move beyond partisan extremes.
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Start With Christian Identity
- Christians should start with their Christian identity before layering national concerns on immigration.
- Scripture repeatedly calls for care of strangers, which should shape policy conversation.
Systemic Brokenness Undermines "Just Obey The Law"
- The U.S. immigration system is chaotic and resembles a complex flowchart that many can't navigate.
- That brokenness undercuts claims that everyone should simply "obey the law" because legal pathways are often closed.
Backlogs Are Causing Labor Shortages
- Major visa categories (family, employment, humanitarian) are severely backlogged and effectively restricted.
- Backlogs and policy changes plus enforcement reduce newcomers and worsen labor shortages.


