Josh Hammer - ‘Charlie Kirk’s Death Changed Everything’, Candace Owens and The Broken Right

Dec 9, 2025

Josh Hammer, a conservative commentator and author of 'Israel and Civilization,' discusses the significant political shifts following Charlie Kirk's assassination. He emphasizes how Kirk’s death exposed deep fractures within the American right, turning old-school nationalism into a nihilistic movement. Hammer critiques the rise of antisemitism and anti-Israel sentiments among young conservatives, addressing the dangerous narratives perpetuated by populist figures. He also reflects on the implications for the conservative coalition and the future of Western conservatism.

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INSIGHT

Charlie As The Movement Glue

Charlie Kirk acted as a coalition-builder who drew boundaries to keep the modern conservative movement cohesive.
His death exposed those fault-lines and triggered open factionalism across the right.

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Three Camps On The Right

A distinct split has formed: establishment conservatives, MAGA-aligned nationalists, and a nihilistic burn-it-down wing.
The anti-Israel, populist voices now aim to fracture the Christian-Zionist base inside the GOP.

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Charlie Called Fuentes 'Vermin'

Josh recounts Charlie's anger at Dinesh D'Souza for debating Nick Fuentes and called Fuentes 'vermin.'
Charlie would not have welcomed Fuentes into his events and treated him as an arch-enemy.

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In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I’m joined by Josh Hammer, conservative commentator and author of Israel and Civilisation, for a detailed breakdown of the chaos consuming the American right after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Hammer, a close friend of Kirk’s, explains how his murder has exposed deep fractures in the conservative movement, from figures like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and Nick Fuentes to mainstream Christian Zionists and pro-Israel conservatives. He describes Charlie Kirk as “the glue that held the movement together,” arguing that without him, the American right is now entering a dangerous new phase of ideological civil war.

We discuss the rise of anti-Israel sentiment among young conservatives, the spread of conspiracy theories blaming “Jewish influence” for foreign policy, and how these narratives are being legitimised by populist commentators. Hammer traces how old-school nationalism has turned nihilistic, how figures once aligned with MAGA now flirt with antisemitism, and what this all means for the future of Western conservatism.

The collapse of unity after Kirk’s death, the conservative civil war over Israel, and the dangerous resurgence of antisemitism inside America’s political right.

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Watch the extended conversation here: https://open.substack.com/pub/winstonmarshall/p/charlie-kirks-death-changed-everything?r=18lfab&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

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Chapters

0:00 Introduction

2:04 Josh's Response to Candace’s Accusations

10:01 The Nature of the Conservative Movement

20:27 The Impact of Charlie Kirk's Death

33:03 The Hamptons “Incident”

38:33 The Role of Social Media and Public Opinion

45:33 The Future of the Conservative Movement

46:44 Final Thoughts

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