Come listen to me speaking with Cindy Arnold, who was my EMDR trainer. I attended her wonderful class through the Trauma Institute and Child Trauma Institute which was founded by Executive Director Ricky Greenwald. Listen to Cindy and I speak about EMDR, and how she is also able to integrate IFS (as well as Ego States) into her trauma work. She was one of the people who helped lead me into the world of trauma healing. I hope you find this conversation with her as interesting and enlightening as I have!