The Ghost of Presidents Past + A Conversation With Norm Eisen

Today on Mea Culpa, I’m replaying an episode from last July featuring my conversation with Norm Eisen, attorney, author, legal analyst, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, founder of Democracy Defenders Action, and co-founder of The Contrarian. While chaos rains down on America and the world because of Donald Trump, I thought it was worth doing a temperature check on where we were just one year ago. At the time, Trump was still fighting it out on the campaign trail, and the biggest outrage was Judge Eileen Cannon’s dismissal of the Mar-a-Lago documents case. Fast forward to now, and we’re facing far more dangerous threats: ICE rounding people up in the streets, Trump’s effort to shred the Constitution, and the looming threat of new wars. This conversation is a stark reminder of how far we’ve fallen, what’s still at stake, and what we can do to save our country.

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