

Trump says no one cares about Epstein. Why won't his base let it go?
30 snips Jul 18, 2025
Ryan Lucas, NPR's justice correspondent, dives deep into the enigmatic ties between President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, a figure mired in controversy and conspiracy. Lucas explores how Epstein's death sparked skepticism and heightened conspiracy theories, particularly among Trump's supporters. He discusses the frustration within this base regarding the Justice Department's refusal to release Epstein-related files. The podcast illuminates the ongoing tension between Trump's dismissal of the issue and his supporters' relentless pursuit of transparency and accountability.
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Trump's Early Ties to Epstein
- Donald Trump had a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein starting in the 1980s and flew on Epstein's private plane.
- Trump described Epstein as "a lot of fun to be with" and noted Epstein liked young beautiful women.
Epstein Files Spark Fury
- The Justice Department stated Epstein died by suicide and denied the existence of a client list.
- This refusal to release full files has angered many Trump supporters demanding transparency.
Trump Team Fanned Epstein Theories
- Trump's inner circle, including FBI Director Kash Patel, have fueled conspiracy theories about Epstein.
- Such rhetoric has set expectations for transparency that are now fueling base frustration.