
The Daily Beast Podcast Why Seeing Epstein and My Uncle Donald Haunts Me
Nov 17, 2025
Mary Trump, a clinical psychologist and author, shares insights from her complex relationship with her uncle, Donald Trump. She reflects on her upbringing intertwined with Donald's performative nature and discusses the stark misogyny within their family. Mary warns that Trump's real threat comes not just from him, but from the enablers that support him. She addresses his psychological health, citing cognitive red flags, and critiques the institutions that have legitimized his power. Mary reveals her reasons for speaking out, emphasizing the importance of breaking the silence.
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Focus On The Enablers
- Mary Trump stopped reacting with horror to seeing Donald everywhere and shifted focus to the people who enable him.
- She argues those enablers, not just Donald, are the critical targets for accountability.
Birthday Party Performance
- At 16 Mary held her birthday at a Hyatt ballroom where Donald treated the event like his own.
- She noticed early his craving for attention, performing for an indifferent teenage audience.
Same Room As Jeffrey Epstein
- Mary discovered Jeffrey Epstein attended Donald's second wedding and that she was in the same room.
- She emphasizes she never met Epstein personally despite being present at that event.


