Spiritually Incorrect Debate: Which View of Hell is Right?
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Sep 2, 2025 
David Artman, author of "Grace Saves All: The Mystery of God's Inclusive Love," dives into a lively mock debate defending universalism against annihilationism and traditional eternal-conscious torment. The discussion heats up as participants engage with scriptural references and philosophical arguments about divine justice, free will, and human responsibility. Tensions rise as they explore the complexities of hell, divine love, and the implications of grace, ultimately challenging each other's perspectives while promoting a robust theological dialogue.
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Justice Supports Eternal Punishment
- Jonathan (as advocate) argues eternal conscious torment combines scripture, tradition, and philosophy to affirm eternal punishment as just.
- He claims God's nature as justice necessitates enduring punishment for sin.
Scripture-Centered Case For Destruction
- Seth (as advocate) prioritizes Scripture over tradition and reads hell language as destruction and cessation.
- He frames destruction as the worst possible fate and consistent with passages like "destroy both body and soul."
Shared Goal: God Ultimately Restores All
- Seth and David briefly agree that evil will ultimately be defeated and God will be 'all in all.'
- They contrast this endpoint with JD's portrayal of an unresolved, perpetual rebellion in creation.