Voxology From "So That" to "And Yet:" A Theology of Suffering
Nov 17, 2025
Dive into a thought-provoking discussion on God's will, contrasting ideal intentions with the harsh realities of life in a fallen world. Explore the complexities of suffering and how faith grapples with cultural challenges. The hosts tackle ideologies, offering insights into their appeal and dangers, while also engaging with topics like Christian nationalism. Personal stories of struggle and grace highlight the conversation, revealing how suffering can lead to revelation and deeper understanding. Engage with mystery, lament, and the call to find redemption amidst challenges.
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Ideal Will Vs. Accommodated Wills
- Mike Erre distinguishes God's ideal will (Genesis 1–2, Revelation 21–22) from God's wills within suboptimal, fallen conditions.
- He argues Scripture provides gradations: accommodational commands aren't equivalent to the original divine intention.
Genesis 3 As Lament, Not Divine Design
- Mike Erre contends Genesis 3 records consequences and lament, not God instituting evil or death as his primary will.
- He reads curses as the natural effects of disobedience rather than divine desires.
Reject Ideological Simplicity
- Teach complexity and resist turning the gospel into a tidy ideology that eliminates mystery.
- Introduce biblical tension so people learn to trust God instead of trying to fully systematize Him.
