Ep. 43: Hiten Keshave - Who is a Disruptive Leader? | CFO Mindset

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FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Adam: (00:05)

Welcome back to Count Me In, IMA's podcast about all things affecting the accounting and finance world. Our guest for episode 43 is Hiten Keshave CFO, entrepreneur and established leader in finance. And it's conversation with Mitch, Hiten shares his perspective relating to automation, job creation, innovation, and the overall mindset of a successful finance leader. Let's hear his insights now. 

Mitch: (00:33)

So I know looking at your LinkedIn, one of the things you have in your title is mind shift leader. So in your opinion, when it comes to accounting and finance or just business in general, you know, how do we need to shift our mindset when it comes to artificial intelligence and the disruption that it has caused in accounting and finance. 

Hiten: (00:52)

The key aspect from a finance individual versus artificial intelligence. Now there's been a whole talk about it being a replacement of individuals and the current roles that people play. And so people are going to become obsolete in the work place. I don't think that's necessarily the case. What will actually happen is there will be a transition, the change of roles that individuals will play in business. The mindset will change to how am I going to stay relevant? What this transition of technology that comes in. And I use the example of, Excel, you know, and accounting back in those days, the general ledger is all done on paper. Those big 80 size books. And then, the introduction of, Excel came in and things just started to be done electronic, but the individual didn't become obsolete. All they did was they changed the skillset to become more relevant with time. So I think that mind shift aspect is, stay away from the negativity that, indulges around the environment and focus on well, how you can in and make yourself relevant. 

Mitch: (02:08)

Besides helping, you know, really in my opinion, I think the automation helps the accountant today. what other further positives do you think this automation, artificial intelligence, RPA has to offer to the profession? 

Hiten: (02:24)

Look, I think a RPA in itself is going to, besides efficiencies and productivity, it's going to come ultimately to a bigger business perspective from a decision making as big, you know, you will have information readily available for you to analyze, make better decisions from, look at analytics, you know, descriptive analytics, predictive analytics, using artificial intelligence based on historic data that's set in your, if you have a technology with old one to have a customer or revenue later data, you know, it extracts a extrapolate storage movement to use some prediction going forward. And you can then apply commercial acumen to that to say, you know what, okay fine, this is what's happened in the past. But going forward, things actually changing autonomy wise. So I think it's going to make businesses more proactive rather than reactive. 

Mitch: (03:29)

Well, I know making business more proactive and I told you before this call, I enjoy following you on LinkedIn and all your articles and posts. One of the things I saw was the “disruptive leader”. So is that something that you coined yourself or is that something you picked up from somebody? 

Hiten: (03:47)

I've tried to coin as many of these things myself, but there might be others who described the message in their own way. 

Mitch: (03:56)

Well, I think it's right in alignment with what you're talking about here and you know, being able to take these insights and lead the business through. So can you just kind of explain to our listeners here what you actually mean by a disruptive leader. 

Hiten: (04:10)

Look, in context to the AR, RP, RPA side? You know, I look at a disruptive leader, someone who's going to be visionary and old thinking, you know, someone who is going to look, you know, what can I do better going forward rather than, what is it that I need to do now? So thinking in the future rather than thinking in the present moment only. So, you know, often we get told to live in the present moment. But that's not only enough now with technology coming in and especially if you're a technology company, which is where I play, you know, we always have to think what is it that we can do better for clients in order to keep our business and product more relevant in that instance is do we have to introduce artificial intelligence in our own product itself that we deliver to our clients to make their lives easier and to make ourselves more relevant? You know, those are the type of aspects that, you need to look at it. So as a visionary leader, you need to look both internally but also externally in terms of delivery to your customers as well. 

Mitch: (05:15)

And now how does this, it kind of changed the benchmarks or the measure of success of the finance team when everything is not so internally focused and you know, looking at the right now, but more in the future, how do you measure that? 

Hiten: (05:33)

Look, I think there'll be certain basics that the finance team will still need to do deliver in terms of what they do today or where I think the key aspect will come in is what is finance now able to do with day financial data to make business decisions more effective from an operational aspect and a strategic aspect. How does a financial individual uses commercial acumen and strategic acumen, but improve a business other than being a backend office person, only be an office person who able to add very in a proactive manner in a strategic, a general of the business or in an operational one. So you know, there's this old term about finance business partnering. It's a big buzzword that's going around. Essentially the crux of it is don't sit on your laurels and only thinking of finance aspect. Start thinking broad based on a whole business perspective. And I look at it these, you know, if you're a CFO and you want to transition into a CEO role. You actually need to know your business holistically. And I think that's the role ultimately, that the CFO and the finance individuals will start playing. 

Mitch: (06:55)

So leading into my next question right there, I know, the role of the CFO has changed and there's a lot of talk about that. You mentioned business partnering. So in your terms, you know, who really is the modern CFO and what can we expect from that role to change even more as the industry continues to progress. 

Hiten: (07:19)

Okay. Your modern CFO for I would say is a copilot or a CEO or managing director over the business. Essentially that individual for me in the future or even currently needs to ...