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Notorious heat pump design expert Michael, from Option Energy Solutions in Brighton Sussex, comes on the show with Tom from Somerset.

Tom runs Arlow Plumbing and Heating and has a team of five involved in the installation of gas and oil boilers. Tom started installing heat pumps quite a few years ago and has recently teamed up with Michael who has provided some mentorship.

The conversation naturally discussed training, one of the subjects Nathan at BetaTalk is regarded as being an expert on. The episode is more proof of how engineers are learning more from each other than perhaps the courses which are on offer.

The chat discussed recent changes proposed by DESNZ as well as discussing some of the manufacturers involved with heat pumps such as:

• Vaillant
• Viessmann
• Grant
• Ideal
• Worcester Bosch
• Mitsubishi
• Midea 

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