Ethan Hawke and Alia Shawkat discuss their new film 'Blaze', summers in Nova Scotia, art that tells the truth, beginner's mind, Alia's painting, career advice from Steve McQueen, and the importance of giving it all away.
Engaging in different artistic outlets can provide fulfillment and connection to different parts of oneself.
Letting go of fixed identities and embracing the mystery of life allows for living in the present moment.
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Ethan Hawke and Alia Shawkat discuss their recent projects
In this podcast episode, Ethan Hawke and Alia Shawkat talk about their recent projects and experiences in the world of acting. Ethan shares his excitement about his career-best performance in the film 'First Reformed' and the positive reception it received. They delve into the challenges and rewards of working on independent films and the importance of giving oneself permission to explore different artistic endeavors without being solely focused on commercial success. They discuss the value of being present in one's work and the joy of collaborating with other artists. Throughout the conversation, they also touch on topics like the ever-changing nature of relationships and memories, the significance of living in the present moment, and the continuous process of self-discovery.
The power of giving oneself permission to explore various forms of art
Ethan and Alia reflect on the significance of giving oneself permission to pursue different forms of art, whether it be singing, painting, writing, or acting. They discuss how engaging in these different artistic outlets can provide a sense of fulfillment and connection to different parts of oneself. They mention the importance of letting go of expectations and allowing creativity to flow without the pressure of commercial success or external validation. They also emphasize the value of maintaining a sense of curiosity, constantly rediscovering passions, and being open to new experiences and artistic possibilities.
The ongoing process of self-discovery and letting go of identity
The conversation touches on the ongoing process of self-discovery and the idea of letting go of fixed identities. They discuss how one's identity and sense of self can evolve and change over time, and how memories and relationships can also transform as a result. They explore the idea of being present in the moment and embracing the mystery and unknowable nature of life. They reflect on the beauty of living in the present and the liberation that comes with releasing attachments to past identities and expectations.
The importance of being of service and the connections formed through art
Ethan and Alia discuss the importance of being of service and working towards something beyond personal gratification. They reflect on the power of collaboration and how art can bring people together and create deep connections. They emphasize the value of being in service of a larger purpose or story and the joy that comes from supporting and being supported by fellow artists. They also highlight the significance of finding intimacy and connection through shared passions and creative experiences.
Topics covered include: their new film Blaze, summers in Nova Scotia, art that tells the truth, the beauty of beginner’s mind, Alia’s painting, career advice from Steve McQueen, and the importance of giving it all away.
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