Where Do Catholics and Protestants Agree? With Erick Ybarra
Nov 15, 2023
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Erick Ybarra, a theological depth supporter, and Gavin Ortlund discuss areas of agreement between Catholics and Protestants on atonement, creation, classical theism, and responding to secularism. They explore various theories of atonement, the significance of the transfiguration, divine simplicity in classic theism, and how to respond to the growing secularization of society. They also touch on the influence of instant gratification and skepticism, as well as the importance of partnering together to re-Christianize Western culture while respecting disagreements.
Catholics and Protestants agree on the concept of substitutionary satisfaction in the atonement.
Catholics and Protestants have varying interpretations of the creation account, but no major points of disagreement.
Both Catholics and Protestants recognize the challenge of secularization and engage in apologetics and evangelization to address it.
Deep dives
Areas of Agreement on the Atonement
There is substantial overlap between Roman Catholic and Protestant views on the atonement. Both emphasize the concept of substitutionary satisfaction, where Christ pays the debt of sin on behalf of humanity. They also recognize the importance of Christ as victor, overcoming the powers of evil, and the ransom theory, interpreting Christ's death as a means of liberation from the dominion of Satan. While there may be varying interpretations and emphasis, the core idea of Christ reconciling humanity to God through his sacrificial death is a point of agreement between the two traditions.
Diverse Views on Creation
There is a range of views on the topic of creation within both Roman Catholic and Protestant circles. While some Catholics hold to young earth creationism, others find support within the text of Genesis for a more theological interpretation, not limited to a literal reading. The emphasis is often on seeing the creation account as a tapestry of theological intent. Similarly, among Protestants, there are those who embrace young earth creationism, while others find compatibility between faith and science, adopting theistic evolution. While there may be differences in interpretation, there is no necessary major point of disagreement between the traditions.
Responding to Secularization
Both Roman Catholic and Protestant traditions acknowledge the challenge of secularization and the waning influence of religion in Western culture. This includes the rise of the 'nones,' individuals who identify as having no specific religious affiliation. There is recognition of the need to respond to this crisis and reinvigorate faith in society. While there may be differences in approach and emphasis, both traditions are actively engaging in apologetics, evangelization, and the promotion of Christian values as a response to secularization. The goal is to provide meaningful explanations and address contemporary philosophical objections, such as the problem of evil, and to counter the prevailing materialistic worldview with the richness and coherence of the Christian faith.
Importance of Understanding Different Beliefs on Creation
There is a diversity of beliefs among Catholics and non-Catholics regarding the age of the earth and the literal interpretation of the creation story. However, the focus seems to be shifting away from debates on young earth versus old earth. Some Catholics are now attempting to reconcile scientific evidence with the historical existence of Adam and Eve. While there are still contentious debates among Protestant young earth creationists, there seems to be a lack of focus on this topic within Catholic theologians.
The Importance of Maintaining Divine Simplicity and Classic Theism
Both Catholics and Protestants emphasize the importance of divine simplicity, which means that God is without parts, and classic theism, which affirms God's immutability, impassibility, and eternity. However, there are concerns about a growing trend among contemporary Protestants to deviate from these traditional theological doctrines. Many believe that maintaining these principles is crucial for preserving the absoluteness and godness of God. It is essential for Protestants to rediscover their theological roots in order to address the challenges posed by secularization and to recrystionize the West.
This dialogue between Gavin Ortlund and Erick Ybarra explores where Catholics and Protestants agree about atonement, creation, classical theism, and responding to secularism.
See more about Erick here: https://erickybarra.com/
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Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) serves as senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Ojai.
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