New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers.

---

One of the great perils and problems of our age is that we sometimes become too entrenched in our views and attached to being right.

According to guest George Saunders, the antidote is something he calls “holy befuddlement.”

George Saunders is the author of eleven books, including Lincoln in the Bardo, which won the 2017 Man Booker Prize for best work of fiction in English. His most recent book, Liberation Day, is a collection of short stories that explore the ideas of power, ethics, and justice, cutting to the heart of what it means to live in community with our fellow humans.

In this episode we talk about:

How George Saunders creates “holy befuddlement” in himself and in his readers
How shaving down dogmatism can help us be, in his words, less of a “turd”
How to deal with heightened expectations we might have of ourselves
Healthy ways to enjoy praise
What it looks like to cultivate a relationship with our self, to the extent that the self exists
The importance of moral ambiguity in his work
The impact of meditating – or not meditating – on our creative work
And forgiveness and coming up short

Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/george-saunders-511

The Tragedy of Karbala - Moharram in Karachi - Why do Shias block the road? #TPE