
Tuna on Toast with Stryker Tuna on Toast with Finneas
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Oct 19, 2021 Finneas, an eight-time Grammy winner known for his work with Billie Eilish, joins to discuss his new album, Optimist. He shares the heartfelt origin of the song "What They'll Say About Us," inspired by Amanda Kloots' story. The conversation delves into the evolving nature of music, his views on creativity and vulnerability in new artists, and his collaborative dynamic with Billie. Finneas also reflects on fame and personal metrics of success while revealing his hopes for the future, including fatherhood and staying engaged in music.
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Seeing The Rolling Stones Changed Perspective
- Ted Stryker describes seeing the Rolling Stones and how their stage intimacy kept him captivated despite not growing up listening to them.
- He realized their humility and ability to connect individually explains their continued massive draw.
Don’t Preemptively Edit For Radio
- Finneas advises not to sacrifice a song's integrity to chase hits or preemptively edit for radio.
- Let others make necessary edits later instead of changing the creative core upfront.
Simplicity Helps Music Age Well
- Finneas notes simple, restrained production tends to age better than overly complicated trends.
- He argues popular production often timestamps music, making it feel dated faster.

