Fr. Stephen De Young is writing an article for our upcoming publication, the Symbolic World Magazine, and he will also join us as a speaker for the Symbolic World Summit in February 2024. He is an amazing writer and speaker and has really helped me reach new heights in my understanding of Scripture.
In this discussion we specifically discuss certain sexual and revolutionary symbolism in the Bible, starting with when Ham “uncovered” his father, Noah’s, “nakedness”. Understanding this is a key to understanding Genesis 9, and an important aspect of Biblical storytelling.

Bio: Rev. Dr. Stephen De Young is Pastor of Archangel Gabriel Orthodox Church in Lafayette, Louisiana. He is also the host of the Whole Counsel of God podcast from Ancient Faith and author of the Whole Counsel Blog, as well as co-host of the Lord of Spirits podcast. Fr. Stephen holds a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies from Amridge University.

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Fr. Stephen De Young:
Lord of Spirits podcast: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits
Fr. De Young’s books, podcasts, and blogs: https://www.ancientfaith.com/contributors/stephen_deyoung
Previous discussions with Fr. De Young on this channel:
- The Son of Man - with Fr. Stephen De Young - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8KkjD-sLQI
- Gods, Angels and Demons - with Fr. Andrew Damick and Fr. Stephen De Young - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_WlIurGtA
- Hope for the Future and the Religion of the Apostles | with Fr. Stephen De Young - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsuxgepcNwQ
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Original YouTuber version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/GQgOYkzj0ek
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Timestamps:
0:00 // Preview clip
1:17 // Intro music
1:42 // Introduction
2:17 // Speaking at conference
3:28 // The legacy of Lord of Spirits
5:33 // Rediscovering the Old World
11:57 // A key in Genesis about Noah
16:23 // Uncovering the father's nakedness
20:09 // Why would Ham do this
25:03 // Usurpation in Scripture
30:06 // The positive side
31:10 // The sin at the beginning of a world
34:10 // Not too close or too far
39:10 // In Christ's story
40:57 // Conceding mediation
44:14 // A more mature understanding of unification
47:22 // Our conception of marriage and family
51:03 // St. Paul saying women must cover their heads
56:37 // Noah's sin
59:11 // Lot's sin
1:01:00 // Knowing your opponent
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