Gray Sutanto, an assistant professor of systematic theology and author, shares his incredible journey from atheism to faith in Christ. He explores profound questions about why not everyone is saved and the nature of human sinfulness. Sutanto challenges common beliefs about inherent human goodness and discusses the theological concept of concupiscence. He also addresses the complexities of evangelism, underscoring the need to share the gospel with those who haven't heard it while reflecting on the story of Job's faith amid suffering.
Gray Sutanto's transition from atheism to Christianity illustrates the transformative power of mentorship and the understanding of God's grace in human life.
The podcast explores the themes of human sinfulness and divine sovereignty, emphasizing that salvation is a matter of grace rather than human merit.
Deep dives
Gray Satanto's Journey to Christianity
Gray Satanto shares his remarkable journey from atheism to Christianity, detailing his upbringing in Jakarta and Singapore amidst cultural tensions. Initially raised in a Catholic household, he rejected religion during his early teenage years, viewing it as a set of obligatory rituals rather than a meaningful pursuit. However, a pivotal moment occurred when a mentor introduced him to the core tenets of Christianity, prompting a reconceptualization of his beliefs. This mentor's guidance ultimately led Gray to embrace faith, recognizing that God's grace is available even to those who feel unworthy.
Understanding Human Sinfulness
The podcast discusses the theological implications of human sinfulness, emphasizing that many people hold an inflated view of human goodness. Christianity posits that sin is not merely an action but a reflection of the human heart's condition, as humans are fundamentally flawed since the Fall. Gray illustrates this through Augustine's analogy of a forbidden pear tree, which highlights the human inclination to sin when faced with restriction. This perspective challenges the assumption of innate human innocence and reaffirms the need for divine intervention and grace.
Concupiscence and Christian Anthropology
The concept of concupiscence, or the tendency towards sinfulness, is explored in relation to human nature and the effects of the Fall. Gray contrasts the views of Protestant and Roman Catholic traditions regarding whether this inclination is part of original human nature or a product of corruption. According to the Protestant view, original righteousness is intrinsic to humans, making sin a deviation from our true nature rather than a fundamental aspect. This understanding underscores the need for constant vigilance against sinful impulses, even for believers, and highlights the transformative work of the Holy Spirit.
God's Justice and the Mystery of Salvation
The conversation delves into the complex theme of why God does not save everyone, emphasizing that the focus should be on why He saves anyone at all. Gray argues that human sinfulness warrants divine judgment, and God's mercy toward sinners exemplifies His justice and grace. He points out that the offer of salvation is extended to all, challenging listeners to actively spread the Gospel to those who have not yet heard it. Ultimately, the discussion reinforces the idea that God's choice to save is rooted in His sovereign grace, which transcends human reasoning and understanding.
Rebecca McLaughlin is joined by Gray Sutanto to have a conversation about why God doesn’t save everyone.Questions Covered in This Episode:
Can you give us a 60 second overview of your life?
When you were 12, what made you turn to atheism? When you were 17 what made you turn to Jesus?
Why doesn't God save everyone?
Are human beings fundamentally good?
What is concupiscence?
Were we created with concupiscence? Or is this a feature of our curroption from the fall?
How is it fair that God chooses one person over another to save?
How is this invitation open to everyone, if not everyone has heard the gospel?
Guest Bio:N. Gray Sutanto (PhD, University of Edinburgh) is assistant professor of systematic theology at Reformed Theological Seminary in Washington, DC. He is the author of God and Knowledge, coauthor of Neo-Calvinism: A Theological Introduction, cotranslator of Herman Bavinck’s Christian Worldview, and coeditor of Handbook to Neo-Calvinism. Gray is married to Indita and they have a daughter. He is an ordained minister in the International Presbyterian Church. You can follow him on Twitter.Helpful Definitions: