The Kris Vallotton Podcast

What is an Apostle? || Cultural Catalysts

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Dec 5, 2025
Bill Johnson, a senior pastor and influential leader in the modern charismatic movement, joins the conversation to unpack the concept of apostolic leadership. He explains how apostles carry a 'blueprint from heaven' and shares insights on the vital relationship between apostles and prophets. With emphasis on relational context, Johnson discusses navigating prophetic words and the importance of nurturing spiritual gifts within communities. His experiences highlight the need for intentional mentoring and the impact of apostolic thinking on culture.
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INSIGHT

Apostles Carry The Blueprint

  • Apostles carry a heavenly blueprint that shapes culture and structures on earth.
  • Bill Johnson says apostles implement heaven's values incrementally to transform society.
ANECDOTE

Teaching Before Labeling

  • Bill described how he taught on fivefold gifting without labeling Chris as a prophet initially.
  • People recognized Chris's gifting corporately after Bill modeled the function and let the church confirm it.
ANECDOTE

A Father's Influence On Legacy

  • Banning recalled being impacted by Bill's father at his memorial, seeing the legacy he wanted.
  • That testimony shaped Banning's desire to finish well and value personal ministry fruit.
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