Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux 5524 Dating Prostitutes?!?
Jun 4, 2024
56:06
"Hello, all. I'd like to get a discussion going regarding that parallels the release of the PP book. I have been itching with anticipation for its completion since there was first talk of it years ago. I am overly thrilled that it is finally here! I've been raving about it to all of my mama friends. I am a donor and therefore have had access to the book since Stefan started sharing it last October. Yet, I started listening to it and stopped somewhere around chapter four. I wasn't angry or overwhelmed with grief or otherwise emotionally incapacitated. I stopped, thinking it was so juicy, so good, that I needed to take my time and savor it. I didn't want to rush my consumption in greed letting the information spill over, lost, deep within my memory. This seems reasonable in my mind. I wanted to slow down and absorb the book instead of letting it pass through me like an entertaining novel. But I STOPPED at chapter four - just stopped -without realizing I'd done it until today, months after. So, when it dawned on me, I realized that I have a history of doing this, going back decades. I get very excited about a particular book. I elevate it to the highest value, begin reading it, and inexplicably stop, leaving it unfinished with every intention of finishing it later. I have read dozens, maybe hundreds, of inconsequential books cover to cover, but there are four that were "so important" that I never finished them. I want to get to the bottom of it. Does anyone share this enigmatic habit? I'd appreciate any feedback you guys can provide. Maybe someone has already walked this path and has some insight. Please and thank you."
"Hi Stef, my 2 sons came home highly disturbed yesterday. They go to the local park everyday which contains a pond and a river in which they enjoy meeting with their friends, fishing, catching turtles and frogs, and playing sports etc. one of the kids within my son’s friend group was using a live frog as a writing utensil. Using it to draw on a wall. As well as throwing it against the concrete, kicking it etc. He was horrified at the extreme level of abuse and when he questioned this kid his response was who cares it’s just a frog. I suggested to him to stay away from him as he seems to be highly troubled. But my son didn’t know how to handle it as this kid also falls within “the group” and staying away from him would also mean isolating himself from the rest of the kids. Any suggestions as to how to how to handle the social dynamics of this situation?"
"Stef the following question is more about me providing you feedback to a question you asked in your response to my question about how an elephant man would find a virtuous wife. You asked why I was asking the question if I wasn’t an elephant man and such circumstances didn’t apply to me or anyone I know of personally. I think I can understand why you would ask me that question Stef when your philosophy generally deals with less abstract or hypothetical issues, indeed you have arguably taken on a role as a therapist to many people who ask you questions which I give you tremendous praise for addressing. Whilst elephant men are certainly extremely rare, my question wasn’t necessarily abstract, the elephant man was just the extreme end of the spectrum to illustrate a point. You can gradually dial the curtains back a bit and reveal many men who may not be elephant men but certainly are below average looking in looks and socio-economic status, you are aware I think Stef there is some sort of crisis going on whatever the cause, where young generations are having less relationships than ever. That said I think you largely answered my question Stef in that you said it is not a violation of UPB to date someone who is low value such as a prostitute if the prostitute is the best a man can get and sadly for the elephant man and even many other people who are not elephant men, a prostitute who is rejected by all the high value successful men may be the only option available to many of these men."
"Hi Stef, I recall you talking in the past about people getting emotionally ‘stuck’ in a certain age. I am currently 28 but for most of my life have felt like a 12 year old boy. I had an unpublished conversation with you 9 months ago, and almost immediately moved out of my parents house, and have since bought my own car and gained a lot of relationship/sexual experience where I previously had none (none!!). Thank you by the way, you helped me realize I needed to start panicking and actually DOING SOMETHING. Point being is that I feel as though I’ve mentally aged a good bit, and now feel like a rebellious teenager, although still not enough of a true rebel to confront my parents, although we don’t speak. Still have not started therapy or journaling. I’ve realized this sounds more like a question I should be able to ask my father, 10 years ago. I guess my question is, is this normal? And what you’re referring to with ‘mental age’? What would be the next steps to keep ‘aging’? I guess journaling and therapy. This also got me thinking about rites of passage which used to be commonplace in society but are now totally absent or delayed. I normally don’t ask questions but this has been on my mind lately, hopefully something interesting you can extract. - saying that makes me think my feelings are false in some way and I still feel like that scared 12 year old. My parents never changed how they talked to me from that age on essentially, never talked about sex never talked about anything of substance ever. That comment about rites of passage looks so out of place. I wonder why I said that."
"Hello Stefan. Im writing a short novel in where a young up an coming politician gets a real devils bargain. My idea with the story is that I want him, the politician, to face evil. Im thinking something like three envoys which represents different facets or aspects of the darkness in man. Do you have any suggestions or ideas of what these different facets could be? Little short this month but promise to donate at this months end. Thank you for everything."
"Please explain how you define “philosophy” and “philosophical conversation”? . I’m new here —but much of the conversation especially with others seems psychological/historical. Unless I misunderstood."
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"Hi Stef, my 2 sons came home highly disturbed yesterday. They go to the local park everyday which contains a pond and a river in which they enjoy meeting with their friends, fishing, catching turtles and frogs, and playing sports etc. one of the kids within my son’s friend group was using a live frog as a writing utensil. Using it to draw on a wall. As well as throwing it against the concrete, kicking it etc. He was horrified at the extreme level of abuse and when he questioned this kid his response was who cares it’s just a frog. I suggested to him to stay away from him as he seems to be highly troubled. But my son didn’t know how to handle it as this kid also falls within “the group” and staying away from him would also mean isolating himself from the rest of the kids. Any suggestions as to how to how to handle the social dynamics of this situation?"
"Stef the following question is more about me providing you feedback to a question you asked in your response to my question about how an elephant man would find a virtuous wife. You asked why I was asking the question if I wasn’t an elephant man and such circumstances didn’t apply to me or anyone I know of personally. I think I can understand why you would ask me that question Stef when your philosophy generally deals with less abstract or hypothetical issues, indeed you have arguably taken on a role as a therapist to many people who ask you questions which I give you tremendous praise for addressing. Whilst elephant men are certainly extremely rare, my question wasn’t necessarily abstract, the elephant man was just the extreme end of the spectrum to illustrate a point. You can gradually dial the curtains back a bit and reveal many men who may not be elephant men but certainly are below average looking in looks and socio-economic status, you are aware I think Stef there is some sort of crisis going on whatever the cause, where young generations are having less relationships than ever. That said I think you largely answered my question Stef in that you said it is not a violation of UPB to date someone who is low value such as a prostitute if the prostitute is the best a man can get and sadly for the elephant man and even many other people who are not elephant men, a prostitute who is rejected by all the high value successful men may be the only option available to many of these men."
"Hi Stef, I recall you talking in the past about people getting emotionally ‘stuck’ in a certain age. I am currently 28 but for most of my life have felt like a 12 year old boy. I had an unpublished conversation with you 9 months ago, and almost immediately moved out of my parents house, and have since bought my own car and gained a lot of relationship/sexual experience where I previously had none (none!!). Thank you by the way, you helped me realize I needed to start panicking and actually DOING SOMETHING. Point being is that I feel as though I’ve mentally aged a good bit, and now feel like a rebellious teenager, although still not enough of a true rebel to confront my parents, although we don’t speak. Still have not started therapy or journaling. I’ve realized this sounds more like a question I should be able to ask my father, 10 years ago. I guess my question is, is this normal? And what you’re referring to with ‘mental age’? What would be the next steps to keep ‘aging’? I guess journaling and therapy. This also got me thinking about rites of passage which used to be commonplace in society but are now totally absent or delayed. I normally don’t ask questions but this has been on my mind lately, hopefully something interesting you can extract. - saying that makes me think my feelings are false in some way and I still feel like that scared 12 year old. My parents never changed how they talked to me from that age on essentially, never talked about sex never talked about anything of substance ever. That comment about rites of passage looks so out of place. I wonder why I said that."
"Hello Stefan. Im writing a short novel in where a young up an coming politician gets a real devils bargain. My idea with the story is that I want him, the politician, to face evil. Im thinking something like three envoys which represents different facets or aspects of the darkness in man. Do you have any suggestions or ideas of what these different facets could be? Little short this month but promise to donate at this months end. Thank you for everything."
"Please explain how you define “philosophy” and “philosophical conversation”? . I’m new here —but much of the conversation especially with others seems psychological/historical. Unless I misunderstood."
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