Learning to Relate with James-Olivia Chu Hillman

This week, we sit down with relational facilitator James-Olivia Chu Hillman, whose teachings on radical responsibility, integrity, and unconditional positive regard are already shifting how Jeff shows up in relationship… and how Tasha tries not to ghost people who annoy her. 😅

Together, we explore:

* The four core skills of relating well

* why being “right” isn’t the same as being relational

* Why saying “I agree” can be the most disorienting move in a conversation

* What it really means to take responsibility—without shame, and without blame

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And we wrestle with the tension between compassion and boundaries, support and self-abandonment, and the paradox of allowing versus control in both meditation and relationships.

✨ “Integrity has a cost,” James-Olivia reminds us. “But so does losing it.”

Whether you’re conflict-avoidant, righteousness-prone, or deeply tired of your own relational fuckery—this episode offers a compassionate (and funny) mirror.

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The Afterparty (watch at www.mindbodpod.com)

Jeff breaks and Tasha explores why setting boundaries and advocating for oneself can be both challenging and powerful.

Let us know in the comments what this episode shook loose for you.

K, That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in!

Love always,

🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️