Dana Goodyear is a staff writer for The New Yorker and host of the new podcast Lost Hills.“I do find people who take risks—artistic and physical or even intellectual risks—really interesting. ... There are so many people that I have written about who take a really long time with their projects, whether years or decades, and they might or might not work out. ... They just don't go along with what's received, and they—at a great personal cost—often do things that are very different. And then those things are the things in our world that are the most fascinating or feel the most human.” Thanks to Mailchimp and CaseFleet for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @danagoodyear danagoodyear.com Goodyear on Longform Goodyear's New Yorker archive 01:00 Lost Hills (Western Sound and Pushkin Industries • 2021) 32:00 "An Artist’s Life, Refracted in Film" (New Yorker • Jan 2019) 42:00 "The Gardener" (New Yorker • Aug 2003) 49:00 "The Scavenger" (New Yorker • Nov 2009) 49:00 "A Photographer at the Ends of the Earth" (New Yorker • Oct 2019) 42:00 "Man of Extremes" (New Yorker • Oct 2009) 42:00 Honey Junk (W.W. Norton • 2006)

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