Welcome to the What's Next! Podcast with Tiffani Bova.

This week, I have two amazing guests on the show. The first is Bob Moesta. He is a founder, maker, innovator, speaker, and professor. He is the president and founder of the Rewired Group, as well as an adjunct lecturer at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern and a research fellow at the Clayton Christensen Institute. But what I love most about him is he co-created the famous Jobs to Be Done theory, which I use in almost every keynote I have. Alongside Bob, and not to be outshined by any stretch, is Michael Horn who strives to create a world in which all individuals can build their passions, fulfill their potential, and live a life of purpose. He is the co-founder of and a distinguished fellow at the Clayton Christensen Institute, a nonprofit think tank. He also teaches at Harvard Graduate School of Education.

THIS EPISODE IS PERFECT FOR…anyone navigating career decisions, seeking purpose, or looking for strategies to make meaningful progress in their work.

TODAY’S MAIN MESSAGE…making career moves isn’t just about finding the next big opportunity—it’s about aligning your work with your values, energy, and aspirations. In this conversation, Bob and Michael discuss how to evaluate your current situation, identify opportunities for growth, and take steps toward a more fulfilling career.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

Align your career with what energizes and fulfills you.
Evaluate your current role to identify opportunities for growth.
Instead of making a person fit the work, make the work fit a person’s strengths.
Thoughtful career moves start with clarity about your values and goals.

WHAT I LOVE MOST…Bob and Michael’s insight that career fulfillment doesn’t always mean a big leap—it can come from small, intentional changes that better align your work with your strengths and aspirations.

Running Time: 31:03

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